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4082 No. 4082 watch
does anybody know any good WWOEC artists? when looking for something new i mostly find poorly-horribly drawn crap (see ARC for a good example) in return i give you my favorite 3 artists:
DarkDP
Killbot
Jimmy
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>> No. 4084
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4084
Fluffy
Fluffy
Fluffy
And, uh... oh yeah, Fluffy.
>> No. 4085
Raylude's pretty decent, Prophet's fantastic, and Pandora ain't bad.
>> No. 4090
Some of these are guest artists and only post pics at their forum, but here are some of the better ones.

Pandora, Fluffy, Prophet, Raylude (missing?), DarkDP, DTiberius, LTW, Blargsnarf, Itomic, Levelord(blog), Tommy Simms, Arabatos, Leo/Poland, Darkstar, Mr J, SatyQ, Manuel Hogflogger, Mister D, JuvMC, Fluffy (mentioned twice cause he's that damn good!), Marcos, G-Force(just like JABs art), Sharpie, Esenkas, Lino, F Strom, DIZ(remember all that great Simpsons pronz?), Parodee, Chupa Cabra, Grave, Rafa Silva, Eviluigi, FPA, Enydteva, Madoc, Escoria, sicMOP (missing?), Jichael, Nosantee, Irenicus, Sniper Tomcat, Orange Box, 8Horns, Buttercup Saiyan, Adun, BBMBBF, Beerman, Col Kink.
>> No. 4091
>>4090
I forgot to mention: If you're looking for nothing BUT well drawn stuff, go to Hentai Foundry. That's all they'll let their members post is pro art there.
>> No. 4099
You've forgotten a few, The Fear...( Simpsons, Family Guy with HUGE puffy nipples and huge cocks ) Honda05...just great artwork Zulana...Great DG but sketchily drawn Tram Pararam...he's got his own pay site now. Soooo many, go to the forum and look under new art, PAL comix, hell..just search, it's half the fun.
>> No. 4107
thanks everyone i was really surprised by the quick success of this thread!
>> No. 4108
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4108
>>4099
He was wanting GOOD artists. Tram is okay but his disproportionately small heads eliminate him, and as for The Fear, Honda 05, and Zulana well.......Fear's obsession with 10 ft long dicks, Honda's lack of defining lines and waaaay too bright of colors(just like Vlade's art), and Zulana's uninked chicken scratches all lead me to exclude them from my original list.

Sorry to be so harsh on them, but the truth hurts. Just like some of these new Guest artists that post their art there. Here's a drawing by a new guy named J97064. He is either 10 years old or mentally retarded to think this piece of shit comes close to being art. I kinda think WWOEC should take an example from Hentai Foundry and have some sort of quality standards inposed on pics posted on their site sometimes.

The bad thing about WWOEC's forum is that when you go to criticize anyone's work like "You need moar practice and some art classes BAD!", hell, everyone there gets into an hissy saying you're trying to discourage new artists. BAH!

Before you say it, yes I have posted my art on there AND at H-F, and it was a hell of a lot better than THIS crap! And no, I won't say who I am for fear of retribution there. It's a great free site, but they do have their faults also.
>> No. 4109
I also forgot to mention TopFlite. He's another one to steer clear from. He needs muy muy mucho practice.
>> No. 4111
My top 3 from WWOEC are:

HighHeeledJill
Prophet
Pandora
>> No. 4126
>>4108
There was an incident on the wwoecforum, when Travis aka Greenhouse was bragging about how his clumsy avatar pictures stuff were so appreciated and wanted by the community and someone said "don't be pretentious n/v i was j/k lol" and Harok said "well it IS a pretentious statement" and everyone went drama-nuts against him. The result? Harok deleted most of his post and stopped posting pics in the forum.

That's how WWOEC works, they all act like you're either with them and follow every stupid dogma, or then you're against them.

No wonder why Pandora's Box hasn't posted in ages... Fluffy is probably the last good artist there posting kinda regularly and the only reason I log in the forums anymore.
>> No. 4130
WWOEC's freedom in terms of who gets to host pics there is both a strength and a weakness. A horrible, horribly drawn weakness.

Then again, so what if there's a ton of people with sucky drawings? As long as they're not getting full of themselves, and they enjoy drawing just for an outlet cause they want to, I'm cool with it.

But ya, those forums are horrible. Need a whole new gallery set-up.

Anyway, my favorites:

Prophet
Fluffy
PBX

I want to like DarkDP, but it's just so...flat. There's no sense of delicious flesh to the bodies, I find.
>> No. 4131
As an artist (no, I won't say) the biggest problem on the WWOEC forums is that nobody want to be mean and come off as a jerk when in fact they're just posting criticism. It's the same problem as DA.
>> No. 4141
They need to make a stick in the Artists sections at the forum that says "Don't post here if you can't take criticism!", and let people be truthful about their comments. I know there's always gonna be some /b/tard there (Like Sonderling) who acts like a troll and gets TOO harsh, but the beginning artists need to be told the truth. Just like the guy there who drew this pic >>4108, I read last night where he acted all suprised and hurt because someone actually told him that his art sucked. o_O It does, so get over it. Practice drawing and post it when it improves. (That does kinda look like a child drew it tho)

As far as that Travis Greene fellah, I've never really cared for his art because he makes them look like it's the same person for EVERY character he draws, and a lot of them are ambiguous at best in their clothing to tell who they're actually supposed to be of.

I like DarkDP's art tho. He draws them in the same style that they're drawn in the show, except for the addition of curvy bodies where the show has hardly none.

Pandora has spread himself out too thin tho to really produce very much anymore, what with trying to make a few bucks with his art and all of his free projects at WWOEC. And what about all the failed comics in the Cumix section? I've said it before that the artists should have to finish them before being allowed to post them.

</rant>
>> No. 4145
>>4141
Going by WWOEC's logic, they'll post a sticky saying "don't post here if you can't appreciate an artist's work" so the circle-jerking can keep on going.
>> No. 4148
14bis has a WWOEC acconut, I just can't find him on there, he uses a different name I guess, but what?
>> No. 4153
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4153
I'm curious to know how I rate in the average Anonymous' opinion (although I expect to be trolled for asking). What does Anon think of my work?

HB
>> No. 4155
>>4153

your work blows! thanks for asking!
>> No. 4156
could be better im afraid
>> No. 4160
>>4153
average for toon stuff. anything below that is, well, bad, and it could be improved a lot.
>> No. 4163
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4163
oh oh do me neeeeeeext RIBS
>> No. 4178
>>4163

interesting character choice. do you post your work anywhere? don't think i've seen you on wwoec.
>> No. 4197
I used to look at Empty's stuff way back.
>> No. 4217
>>4178

over at hartists and here http://www.geocities.com/omnibubblegum/
>> No. 4243
>>4148
Fern is 14Bis
>> No. 4244
>>4153
They're not exactly On-Model per se, but they are still well drawn, colored, and shaded nonetheless. If I were a furry fan, I would thoroughly enjoy it.
>> No. 4250
>>4090
Lol at incredible expertise
>> No. 4342
>>4153
Who's that happy looking bitch five bitches from the right, going left?
>> No. 4346
Bad Guy,Ben,Blnkvsn,Blucanary,Buttercup Sayan,
Capibara,Cartoonjoe,Charley,Cypher,Da Pop Dude,Dark Schneider,Des Manders,Esenkas, Fenrir,Flikker,Gandy,
>> No. 4347
>>4342

Shareena from Detention.
>> No. 4351
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4351
Current Top Three:

PBX (when he's not drawing generic mom/son art)
Reynard (even though he's MIA)
DarkDP

I also dig it whenever Sniper Tomcat does a Miss Keane art collaboration with someone. As for Fluffy, I wasn't a fan of his art when it was in its "super skinny" phase but it's great again (see the image posted for proof... well, okay, his Frankie art was always cool but I wasn't able to post "Neapolitan" because it's already posted somewhere else here).
>> No. 4366
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4366
Godofchaos
>> No. 4380
The thing is, almost all those artists and galleries are years old. It seems like almost no one is still updating there.
>> No. 4382
>>4351
Who is PBX?

Are you talking about Pandora's Box?
>> No. 4388
>>4382

Yes, he posts in the forums under that name.
>> No. 4392
>>4346
i feel shame for your pretty low standards
>> No. 4403
>>4380
That's the way a LOT of the artists there do. They'll be all excited and open a site, then after awhile they'll get bored or burned out on the stuff and quit drawing, or they'll go to work for paysites or something. That's the big problem with their Cumix section. Someone will start a comic, then just drop the whole project. /o_o\
>> No. 4413
>>4403 The WWOEC may have it's faults but it is still the best free toon site on the web. When you thank a WWOEC artist you do it by adding to his or her reputation ( it's the small scale at the top of each post ) rather than flooding the post with messages of thanks or begging with the artist to hurry up and finish. I think that discourages a lot of artists from continuing. It's still a top notch site....The Turanga Pages ain't half bad either, same goes for ACUK.
>> No. 4416
>>4084

God I miss /34/. I miss Fluffy's awesome work there. ;_;
>> No. 4420
If you're generally looking for decent pron art, some of the stuff furronika does is pretty well drawn

http://rule34.paheal.net/post/list/Furronika/1

and rule 34 has a HUGE comics selection, some of which are also pretty good (allot of crap too)

http://rule34.paheal.net/post/list/comic/1
>> No. 4423
Interesting..... very interesting!
>> No. 4437
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4437
nev does awesome stuff, although his early stuff isn't great. I love his style.

Prophet, is of course, the son of god.
>> No. 4438
Whats are some good incest or shemale artists?
High Heel Jill
DTiberius
Fluffy
>> No. 4441
>>4413
Back when WWOEC was just starting to get well known around the hentai community (due mostly to Cobra's desire to keep a low profile from copyright holders), seems like there was a new paysite popping up every month, yet the content was nearly 75% WWOEC artists. Then Cobra decided since he couldn't fight these leeching bastards, he would put them out of business by letting everyone put the word out about what WWOEC had to offer. When people finally realized they could get the same art for free, they quit going to the paysites. JAB and Karstens are about the only 2 good paysites left, and theirs is original content. DrawnSex has finally hired some half (maybe only one-quarter) decent artists there. MILFTOON is a bust(no regular updates).
>> No. 4448
I think its like Raymond or something, raylude?

I dunno he did that billy and mandy sex comic.

Classy
>> No. 4459
>>4448
I LOVED his gangbanging jade comic.

Oh god that was great. All my favorite fetishes, and Jade to boot. I wanted to cry.
>> No. 4474
>>4351
Holy fuck who did that?
>> No. 4484
Witch artist had the long tailspin comix?
>> No. 4485
>>4484
fbx i think
but i someone said most of his stuff was taken down.
>> No. 4494
>>4474

Fluffy. He's your God now.
>> No. 4499
>>4494
Yeah, he was a god among us.

I miss the days he would do stuff for us out of the kindness of our heart for free on 34. The 34 days are long gone now. ;_;

Is there another site out there somewhere that has an active 34/35 section? Did our 34 artists (including fluffy) migrate anywhere?
>> No. 4501
I'm surprised no one said Malachi yet. As one of the shittier artists on WWOEC, I have to say that I covet his talent. COVET it I say! Plus he's old school like me, but actually still updates. Also, Jichael is good.
>> No. 4513
Thank you 7chon! I fapped like I haven't done since I was 8 years old. My dick is sore :<
>> No. 4521
Anyone remember the name of this artist?

It's been killing me that I can not remember.
>> No. 4526
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4526
>>4521

Oops, forgot the image.
>> No. 4527
>>4526

Stretch, I think. Let me check.
>> No. 4528
>>4527

Nope, never mind.
>> No. 4536
>>4521
I started to say it's from Randy Dave, but it's too clean looking to be his.
>> No. 4538
>>4536
Link to his gallery(ies) just in case?
>> No. 4544
>>4538
randydave was banned from the internets.
check rs
>> No. 4554
>>4544
What do you mean?

Didn't he get scared off when someone else got a visit from the police? If so, who was it again?
>> No. 4559
>>4554

WWOEC got a notice from their ISP that his stuff was too borderline for them (you can guess in what way). He also was getting on in years, like being over fifty, and he decided to hang up his perv artist hat. He still occasionally posts in the forum I think.

Go to Google advanced search, put "Randy Dave" in the quote field, put "imagefap.com" in the website field, and you should get the vast majority of his work. Yes, imagefap is pop-up hell; get firefox and adblock. Problem solved.
>> No. 4560
>>4559
I see. That is messed up.

So Wwoec now bans loli stuff? No wonder it started to suck.

Also, he is the epitome of a predophile then?
>> No. 4600
>>4560 B-Man, a regular at the WWOEC has a whole series of sites at Yahoo.com. He also has a "Randy Dave" site there as well for what it's worth.
>> No. 4793
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4793
Randy Dave voluntarily quit drawing and he requested that Cobra at WWOEC delete all of his art that was posted there when some holier-than-thou troll targeted Randy personally and threatened to cause a stink by reporting his loli art to the Feds. Cobra moved his site to the Members Area for a time but the troll had a vendetta against Randy personally, and kept threatening to call in the Feds. So to keep his family from finding about about his drawings in case the asshole made good his threat, Randy asked that they all be removed.

There was one other loli artist there that the same troll targeted, but Cobra got tired of the guys shit and told him to kiss his ass. The troll hasn't been back that I know of.

Here, have some Avatar art while U wait!
>> No. 4824
>>4793
And yet nowhere in there do you mention that Randy Dave's art is infantile, amateurish and generally fucking terrible.
>> No. 4831
Probably because that has nothing to do with what he's talking about.
>> No. 4834
>>4824
Yes, and there are over 2000 pictures, all with text, and many stories. Quantity trumps quality.
>> No. 4839
>>4834
I personally love his work. It is unique both in art and style. Plus as someone with a huge incest and daughter/loli fetish....well let's just say I've shed much sperm.
>> No. 4848
rt
>> No. 4849
I miss his stuff... I had his whole collection once from a 200mb torrent but recently reformatted my computer and can't find any Randy Dave downloads now.
>> No. 4857
>>4831
Acting like he's the lost messiah of creepy old perverts implies that his work is desireable in some way. I'd say that's not true.

>>4834
He adapted material from asstr and other sources of poorly written stories about underage girls getting pregnant and dudes with giant cocks.

>>4839
I sympathise, it's not my thing, but if it's something you're after, there are plenty of other artists that do it and just as many that do it better.
>> No. 4860
>>4082
Anyone else notice their mascot is a furry?

Originally made me think it was a furry site.
>> No. 4982
Col. Kink is decent.
>> No. 4984
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The artist is Muttonfed
>> No. 4985
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4985
Dark DP, Fluffy (when he's around), Leo/Poland, Tommy Simms, Prophet, Madoc, Col Kink, Jichael, G-Force, Juv MC, Diz, Parodee, and a few of the Cumix they infrequently update are about the only reasons I still even go to WWOEC anymore.

BTW, Wraith Fades, the colorist who's been working on the Peg Cums Camping comic there, has recently posted a notice saying he is stepping down from art for the time being, so the comic is in limbo if or when he decides to return unless they turn it over to another colorist. But as much time as it takes to do one of PBX's pages, I doubt if they'll have too many volunteers to step in and take up the slack. I hope they do what they did with the Rugrats Incest Diaries comic and post the unfinished pages for us at least if it's going to take 5 years to complete the Peg comic.

BTW, have the latest Dark DP pic.
>> No. 4988
>>4860
Back when WWOEC was still in it's infancy (i believe still at Yahell), they took a poll to see whether the fans wanted the Tigress pic or a human character. Even I agreed at the time the tiger pic was better than the human one PBX drew up, so even I voted for the tiger version. They would have used a more recognizable character for the mascot, but Cobra was afraid that if it depicted a famous toon, the copyright holder might have bitched about it, so they had PBX draw up characters of his own, and a tiger girl fit the toony feel of the site better than a pic of a human girl. A drawing of a real girl on top would have made everyone who saw the mascot think WWOEC was only a site for realistic looking art. PBX's high quality anthro style on the mascot lets people know they can expect to see good realistic art as well as toony art.
>> No. 5472
anyone know who did that comic of the fairly odd parents where timmy is sent to the principals and has sex with her?
>> No. 5487
>>4988
it only "lets people know" what people imagine the logo stands for, and that makes me think furry site too
>> No. 5488
>>5487
me too
>> No. 5497
just to let everyone know the the site has crashed
>> No. 5508
Just to let everyone know:::

The forum was the only thing that crashed, but it is back up now....somewhat. A lot of content was lost.
>> No. 5522
>>5508
in b4 nothing of value
>> No. 5597
http://rule34.paheal.net/post/view/195570?search=vlade

http://rule34.paheal.net/post/view/217762?search=vlade

some one has improve
>> No. 5598
http://rule34.paheal.net/post/view/195570?search=vlade

http://rule34.paheal.net/post/view/217762?search=vlade

some one has improve
>> No. 5637
so are they totally 404'd now?
>> No. 5638
The site and forum will return. It is moving hosts.
>> No. 5639
The site and forum will return. It is moving hosts.
>> No. 5665
>>4526

Muttonfed, IIRC.

He doesn't have a site but I think he posts on the forums.
>> No. 5692
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5692
>>4108
>>4126
>>4141

Bloody hell, do you ever think that maybe people have DIFFERENT TASTES?

DarkDP's shit is all so bloody boring, does he have no imagination? Fluffy's is good anatomy I guess but so little variety.

These are your top 2 picks?

No, I'm not a blammed WWOEC artist, I just prefer imaginative art over same-old drawing style.

Good artist come from shitty artists who didn't give up.

Mediocre artists come from art class.

<<< This pic I saved because, despite being crappy, it's so darn hard to find ANY Reboot smut.
>> No. 5693
>>5692
Oh, and in b4 how art is about making money, not about expressing yourself.
>> No. 5708
>>5693
art is about expressing yourself, when it's about making money, it stops being any creative at all and it's something even a robot could be programmed to do... XD
>> No. 5712
>>5708

You just summarized why Julius Zimmerman's drawings are so fucking boring.
>> No. 5724
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5724
Those of us who frequented the /34/ board may remember that this pic's from an artist who barely ever posted because of his art being complained about.

Protip; "learn to draw" isn't constructive criticism, and if you can't say what specific thing is wrong you may just be a twat.
>> No. 5732
>>5724
When most people say "constructive criticism" they mean "say whatever you want, if you don't sugar-coat it to a point it means nothing I won't hear a thing" , WWOEC tards and deviantards in particular go hand by hand on this.
>> No. 5740
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5740
>>4090

Interesting thread I seemed to to stumbled across here. By the way I'm not a "Guest Artist" but a regular contributor and have been so since the early days when WWOEC started on Yahoo Groups.
>> No. 5742
>>5732
When most people on the 'chans say "constructive criticism," they mean "u suk, kill urself." That's not constructive criticism. Nor is "take art classes." Constructive criticism is pointing out specific areas that need improvement and explaining WHY things are wrong. Most of the shitstorms that happen on WWOEC for "constructive criticism" is the second kind--the kind that purports to be constructive, but is actually completely useless when it comes to helping people improve. It's just a shield to hide behind when you bully mediocre artists.

tl;dr: Anon has just gotten spoiled to being able to say whatever they want without reprisal, and gets all flustered when they're accountable for what they say.
>> No. 5767
From my experience, telling people what's wrong and how to fix it is just one step away from fixing it for them.
Just look for Animeister on DevArt. A few years agom, some guys over failchan's /ic/ spent MONTHS giving advice to this guy, redlining his stuff, and so on, yeah every now and then someone went "kill urself lol", but mostly it was constructive advice.
Did it help at all? No, this guy keeps drawing the same crap up today. Give me a reason why someone should not choose the "free sugar coated fan babbling" sites like DevArt or WWOEC forum offer.

There's no such thing as "constructive criticism" in the way of how mediocre artists expect to be respected, when not hailed. while opinions are subjective and can't be debated over, criticism is meant to be CRITIC after all. Then you've constructive ADVICE. Advice can be taken or rejected, and most of the time people don't make themselves worth of receiving advice when they'll ignore it anyway.

When people ask for "constructive criticism", they're asking for castrated half-serious comments made from a humble and pitiful point of view. It's that damned pity what feeds our western shitty art.

Really, how would anyone seriously expect to learn a particular discipline from total random strangers?? It's like thinking you know kung-fu from clumsily copying what you see in films.
The most constructive thing anyone can be told is "TAKE CLASSES" or "STOP DRAWING".
>> No. 5768
Having worked in the commercial art biz I learned to take criticism, constructive or not. Most of the artists on WWOEC draw as a hobby and some have thin skins and fragile egos. So when they do get criticism they act like "How dare you diss my art, can you draw any better?" This argument falls flat since one doesn't need to be an artist to appreciate and know good art just like one doesn't need to be a musician to appreciate good music.

Many of these artists also have a fervent fanbase who will defend the one who provides them with the fan service they fap to.
>> No. 5775
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>>5767
Never heard of positive criticism mm? But since "stop drawing" is definitely not constructive, I'm going to assume you're mentally inept and stop feeding the troll.

>>5768
If people fap to it then it's obviously fine.

At least the mediocre artists draw something other than fucking Simpsons.

Also; TASTES. Maybe some artists don't want to have THE EXACT SAME DRAWING STYLE as others.

>>4090
And artists who take classes often stop advancing or experimenting with their work, if we're to judge from some of the WWOEC galleries. 2003-2008; same old crap.
>> No. 5807
Just as a fun little exercise, let's see how Wikipedia defines "constructive criticism":

>Constructive criticism, or constructive analysis, is a compassionate attitude towards the person qualified for criticism. Having higher experience, gifts, respect, knowledge in specific field and being able to verbally convince at the same time, this person is intending to uplift the other person materially, morally, emotionally or spiritually. For high probability in succeeding compassionate criticism, the critic has to be in some kind of healthy personal relationship with the other one, which is normally a parent to child, friend to friend, teacher to student, spouse to spouse or any kind of recognized authority in specific field. Hence the word constructive is used so that something is created or visible outcome generated rather than the opposite. Participatory learning in pedagogy is based on these principles of constructive criticism, focusing on positive examples to be emulated over precepts to be followed.
>There can be tension between friendly support and useful criticism. A critic might usefully help an individual artist to recognize what is poor or slapdash in their body of work, but the critic may appear harsh and judgmental in the process. Useful criticism is a practical part of constructive criticism.
>> No. 5808
Just as a fun little exercise, let's see how dictionary.com defines "constructive criticism":

> constructive criticism n. criticism or advice that is useful and intended to help or improve something, often with an offer of possible solutions
>> No. 5810
>>5807
Disregard that first one. I tried to delete it after I realized that section didn't cite sources, but it looks like it didn't delete.
>> No. 5820
>>5808
a 'definition' doesn't change the fact that criticism, advice or flaming are useless when all so-called artists want is to be praised. virgin teenager geeks with low self-esteem would do everyone a favour if they stopped drawing mangled porn of some nickelodeon flash cartoon, that'd be really positive for everyone, especially for themselves!
then they could, like, pay a prostitute or something, now that'd be constructive... and especially positive for the prostitute.

what most people don't understand is that "positive" or "negative" are relative and it depends mostly of how you interpret the meaning of what you're told, despite how hard it sounds: "positive critics" often become negative when an artist takes it as an excuse to stop trying to improve and experiment while boosting some dictatorial ego e.g. snapesnogger et al.
>> No. 5822
japanese are known to be very harsh critics and they've world's biggest professional industry to a point that it's so hypertrophic that it's swallowing every other comic industries.
it may sound weeaboo, but it's true. meanwhile, we keep arguing on how we are not meant to be harsh or overly critic and how shitty artwork must be respected unless "you can do it better" or any other of the many self-satisfied excuses.
>> No. 5825
>>5693
Art has never been about making money. Just ask any artist. Art doesn't make any REAL money until after you're dead. That's when the BIG BUCKS start rolling in. Just ask Picasso.

And as far as the criticism goes, Hentai Foundry is the best place for that. They give you the advice you need to improve. Some of them come off sounding harsh, but most of the time what they say is true, and the truth hurts. I posted a pic there last year in my gallery and it was rejected. Okay, I know I'm no PBX or anything, so I posted it in their forum for a critique.

Most said the main reason they would have rejected it was because the pic was uninteresting. The pose was just lifeless to them. I ended up redrawing the charcter in a different pose and when I finished, I got rave reviews for it.

Like I said, us artists are blinded because we all love our own drawings. Sometimes we need a good kick in the ass from others to set us on the right path, to get some perspective.
>> No. 5827
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>>5825
I've only found that to be true with the furry artists who loves to flame. MOST artists have honest friends and are their own worst critic.

>>5825
Welcome to real life, may I introduce to the concept of professional artists and art commissions... Some people LIVE off this.

>>5822
I'm sure the anime fangroup has something other than its gender-forgetful art style going for it. Admittedly a lot of people go for that cutesy and simple look, but also Japan around the 80s took up animating a lot of the popular cartoons (e.g. Thundercats) and I would assume this caused more investment in its animation companies.

Also, manga and anime look at a very different set of themes in comparison to most Western media outlets, with the added ecchi tension being a relief in societies scared of nipple slips.

Besides, many people at WWOEC and the like do art as a HOBBY, so as long as someone's enjoying it I don't think it matters that they're not getting rich off it.

Many professional artists can give kind constructive criticism. Never once have I seen a bitch-fest on Creature of the Week, and their critics come from people like Njoo.

<<< Njoo did this

Other profitting artists I've talked to include Mecah Fennec (aka MoodyFerret, furry artist) and Meike Thomas aka Doodles aka No.421.

Again; polite, shockingly modest, encouraging people.

Everyone makes mistakes, I see it in fine art, even on MTG art and the like, but constructive criticism means treating someone like a person whilst trying to direct their attention to the right area.
>> No. 5828
>>5827
To clarify, if a community of artists who produce this <<< can be civil then people who just like to rip on art don't get to hide behind the idea that they know better.
>> No. 5829
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>>5827
To clarify, if a community of artists who produce this <<< can be civil then people who just like to rip on art don't get to hide behind the idea that they know better.
>> No. 5830
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^ Sorry for the double post.

<<< Also from a COW artist
>> No. 5915
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Bebe's Kids
>> No. 5916
>>5915

This picture is pure win.
>> No. 6454
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WWOEC doesn't ban loli outright. However, it does maintain the right to remove some things they don't like. Case in point, some of what Madoc made was removed, specifically a comic about Penny having sex with her father.
>> No. 6473
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more muttonfed!
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